One Arab World

1 - Always good you are thinking of non-violent direct action. My only concern is classfying Egyptians according to their religions, and then labelling them original or not-so-original Egyptians. In addition to being unfounded, this is as sectarian as the riots that disgusted you.

Throughout its history, the population of Egypt was never replaced. Until 150 years or so, Egypt's demographic weight has been so overwhelmingly large to the Arab World and Africa that no one wave of migration (and Egypt has seen many) was able to change its physical charecteristics, maybe the cultural, but not the physical.

In all cases, I like to think of Egypt (valley and Detla) as a process, emigrants coming down to Egypt lands from the surrounding desest plateaus all through, even the first waves that built the Ancient Egyptian civilisation. (Comment this)

2 - Your post's title is disillusioned, indeed. (Comment this)

3 - Considering Christianity is probably the oldest surviving institution in Egypt, through its history has had very little in direct foreign involvement and since Islam virtually no conversions I do believe it safe to imply that the current Christians of Egypt have a higher chance of being direct descendents of the pharos. That said I’ll note that, as a Pan Arabist, I believe that the term Egyptian or any nations inhabitants is a resultant of the populations history; a merger of the said countries stock through out the ages. I was trying to show solidarity with a large minority of my people that must be feeling very alienated right now, though I feel my attempt has become diluted for having to make this argument.

Amr please shoot me an email if you would be interested in seeing something like this put together.

Alif your comment just didn’t make any sense or I just didn’t get it.

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5 - I think trying to label one group "original" over another will not help your cause. Extremists are the only people who gain when you start seperating people. Labeling like this plays into the fears and prejudices on both sides. I hardly think what is needed right now is MORE polarisation. What is needed is MORE unity. The point that should be stressed is the people's unity, all of them equally, as Egyptians, not who has more claim to originality than the other group.

The idea that you seem to be putting forth is that Muslims, because they are members of a newer religion brought by invaders, must somehow not be part of the "original Egyptians"(whatever that is). This idea is nonsense. The current Muslim community in Egypt, like in every current Muslim country, is made up mostly of descendents of the original people of that country, who for one reason or another, converted to the new religion. Is there some "foreign" blood in this populice? Sure, just as there is "foreign blood" in the Christian community in Egypt. But that is where this conversation leads up, to blood and blood lines, and who has the claim to the more "pure blood." What does that sound like?

Emphasis on this subject will only the movement harm.
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6 - I don’t like to be labelled « original Egyptian ». It makes me feel as if I am an interesting object in an ethnographic museum or a rare species to be protected in a reserve :) If it is politically correct to describe Amerindians as “original”, it is not the case for Copts. I understand that you are saying this in a good will, but please rethink it over. (Comment this)

7 - arab "invaders" intermarried with native berbers in north africa (egypt) which formed a mixed identity there. No one should think of themselves as higher, even Christians were berbers who were originals in northern africa. Islam and christianity belong together, today it is not honored and that is why there is so much confusion and no peace. If anyone is original it is the berbers. (Comment this)

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